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Yesterday we had some elderly people over for our bday and at some point we talked about billionaires and how they should not exist

I started about taxing the super rich and getting rid of loop holes but they kept repeating stuff like:

"It's just how it is, accept it" and "We can't do anything about it, it's just how it woks."

And it kinda triggered me a bit..

Why the F would you accept shit as is?!

These are the same people who allow fascists to take over and start another world war..

stux⚡️

@[email protected] · 2 months ago

Don't get me wrong, I think I know how reality works

It's not gonna change within a year or maybe 50..

But at some point people have to start and fight back

If we keep repeating "It's just how it is" shit will NEVER change

I refuse to accept shit as is, otherwise what's the point of everything

Chancerubbage

@[email protected] · 2 months ago

@stux Usonians ‘Americans’ think of FDR’s new deal as more fair, equitable . Actually, from the depression, to Reagan’s election. Although there was a little thing called WWII thrown into the mix, for good or ill.

TZL

@[email protected] · 2 months ago

@stux it's more insidious. Some will not act in case of utter injustice/abuse. Some will even find excuses to call legal things illegal if "they don't agree". Such people are a danger at times.

Mike 🇬🇧 🇪🇺

@[email protected] · 2 months ago

@stux
I think that sort of lazy thinking is present across the generations.
Society has always* seemed to be split into those who accept the status quo, those who don't, and those who are prepared to attempt to change society.
(*Speaking as a 70 year old)

I don't think these divisions are necessarily driven by class or education, more by life experiences, and maybe to some extent the attitude of parents.

The ones who fight for change need the 'passive' group for support (moral, financial & political). The passive group can influence the 'acceptance' group to change their views, and to take simple action like voting differently.
People may slowly move between groups as their circumstances change.

Just my theory.

Hold the faith!

Michael Newton

@mavnn · 2 months ago

@[email protected] It feels like I spend half my life arguing either "if we don't keep saying this is wrong it will never change" or "this isn't going to change any time soon so we need to..."

This includes the arguing with myself. It's so hard some days to have the serenity to keep on believing things can and should change and doing what's possible, while also dealing with the reality of what's here right now. But it is also the only way to live life where I can both survive now and live with myself later.