Discussion · bonfire.mavnn.eu

I assumed this was a 1 April publication but nope, it appears to be real. My favorite part is how it basically pretends IPv6 doesn't exist except for a couple mentions of basically "no one likes v6."

https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-thain-ipv8-00.html

Internet Protocol Version 8 (IPv8)

Internet Protocol Version 8 (IPv8) is a managed network protocol suite that transforms how networks of every scale -- from home networks to the global internet -- are operated, secured, and monitored. Every manageable element in an IPv8 network is authorised via OAuth2 JWT tokens served from a local cache. Every service a device requires is delivered in a single DHCP8 lease response. Every packet transiting to the internet is validated at egress against a DNS8 lookup and a WHOIS8 registered active route. Network telemetry, authentication, name resolution, time synchronisation, access control, and translation are unified into a single coherent Zone Server platform. IPv4 is a proper subset of IPv8. An IPv8 address with the routing prefix field set to zero is an IPv4 address. No existing device, application, or network requires modification. The suite is 100% backward compatible. There is no flag day and no forced migration at any layer. IPv8 also resolves IPv4 address exhaustion. Each Autonomous System Number (ASN) holder receives 4,294,967,296 host addresses. The global routing table is structurally bounded at one entry per ASN. This document is one of the companion specifications: draft-thain-ipv8-00 Core protocol (this document) draft-thain-routing-protocols-00 BGP8, IBGP8, OSPF8, IS-IS8, CF draft-thain-rine-00 Regional Inter-Network Exchange draft-thain-zoneserver-00 Zone Server Architecture draft-thain-whois8-00 WHOIS8 Protocol draft-thain-netlog8-00 NetLog8 Protocol draft-thain-support8-00 ARP8, ICMPv8, Route8 draft-thain-ipv8-mib-00 IPv8 MIB and SNMPv8 draft-thain-wifi8-00 WiFi8 Protocol draft-thain-update8-00 Update8 and NIC Certification

dch :flantifa: :flan_hacker:

@[email protected] · 4 weeks ago

@cR0w I think we can safely assume adoption will be *zero* of this. The main lesson of IPv6 is that change on a global scale is very very hard.

Jess👾

@[email protected] · 4 weeks ago

@dch @cR0w Especially if it's a breaking change. Nobody expected that NAT could be made to scale as well as it has.

Buttered Jorts

@[email protected] · 4 weeks ago

@JessTheUnstill @dch @cR0w folks will literally invent IPv8 to avoid having to implement IPv6 and sunset IPv4.

IPv4 is a proper subset of IPv8. An IPv8 address with the routing prefix field set to zero is an IPv4 address. No existing device, application, or network requires modification. The suite is 100% backward compatible. There is no flag day and no forced migration at any layer.

Jess👾

@[email protected] · 4 weeks ago

@ajn142 @dch @cR0w I'm nowhere near smart enough in networking to be able to understand this at a spec level, but I'm hopeful at least that the authors of this spec did actually learn from the debacle of IPv6 and managed to keep it to that 100% reverse compatibility contract. There's going to be IPv4 only hardware around until the end of the internet.

2 more replies

Jess👾

@[email protected] · 4 weeks ago

@ajn142 @dch @cR0w Oh looks like it's someone's AI slop.

https://cybernews.com/tech/ipv8-proposal-slammed-by-tech-professionals/

Cybernews

Someone proposes twice-as-long IPv8 address scheme, gets slammed by tech pros

A controversial draft proposing a new IPv8 standard to extend address length and space is receiving widespread criticism from tech professionals.