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@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] I think there is some of that, but honestly I think the reality is a lot more complex than a single chart (or my initial exasperated comment). People feeling 'allowed to say what they really think' is a thing, but so is people changing opinion, even quite fast, and not having the self awareness to notice. We all tend to assume we've always been like we are now, and a lot of people don't challenge the assumption.

Michael Newton

@mavnn · 3 months ago

@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] about the age range thing: I hope that's true. I'm also in a smallish town in Italy, so gender related social dynamics have a bunch of other factors playing in.

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@[email protected] · 3 months ago

@mavnn @JessTheUnstill @epilonious

it's important to remember the backlash is severe because the progress is real

and also that the young men who broke for Trump because they were promised the rewards of patriarchy are already changing their minds about that

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Michael Newton

@mavnn · 3 months ago

@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected]

The backlash when there's progress part is undoubtably real; I saw at least a couple of people who were nominally egalitarian just flat out refuse to believe that #metoo was real, for example. And when someone points out to the meeting chair that they have asked the only non-male person to take the minutes again they basically have the choice of deciding they want to change or just deciding that maybe "the women" were really always the problem after all. Doesn't stop the pushback grossing me out though!

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