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Just got a Christian follower on the bot's first day.
The thing that fascinates me about self-alleged Christians is that they *never* mention Christ. They only mention the Old Testament.
Which, of course, they rather boldly mis-represent.
I mean, the Old Testament is *already* a fucked up text, to be sure. But they *still* just pretend it says shit it doesn't actually say.
@[email protected] I'm going back and forth on the fact my current profile lists that I'm a Christian. Not because I'm ashamed of Christ, or even being a Christian, but there are sure some other people using the term who I would prefer not to be associated with.
And there are a few Christian teachers out there who actually read the old testiment as the book it is rather than something to mine for pre-existing ideas, but they are rarer than I'd like. If anyone reading here is interested, Tim Mackie studied the bible as a scholar first and then when he became a pastor he started giving a series of talks he's now grouped under the heading "[Exploring my Strange Bible](https://bibleproject.com/podcasts/shows/exploring-my-strange-bible/)" because he realized most of the people in the churches he was teaching at had no idea just how different the bible was from what they thought. It is not a modern Western book written by or for a Western culture, and in fact (as you're no doubt aware), it isn't really a "book" at all.
The Old Testament doesn't say shit about homosexuality. I mean, fuck-all.
Joseph the dreaming prophet wore women's clothes.
Onan isn't a sinner cuz he whacked off. He *didn't* whack off. What he did was ignore a direct order from God and pull out early.
The list goes on and on.
@GeePawHill
>The Old Testament doesn't say shit about homosexuality.
I'm not a follower of the bible by any stretch of the imagination, but I've seen English speakers say this before and it seems very odd to me. What is your reading of
"וְאֶ֨ת־זָכָ֔ר לֹ֥א תִשְׁכַּ֖ב מִשְׁכְּבֵ֣י אִשָּׁ֑ה תּוֹעֵבָ֖ה הִֽוא"
from Leviticus 18:22.
because as a native Hebrew speaker this doesn't read very ambiguous to me.
@GeePawHill sorry, you are wrong. It's in the story of Lut, Sodom and Gomorrah.
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@GeePawHill And Revelation.
I sometimes wonder how different American Christianity would have been had Luther stuck to his guns and kept Revelation in the Apocrypha instead of making it the big action sequence at the end of the movie.