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@[email protected] thanks for reporting! We can reproduce the autocomplete issue but not the search, could you please send us app logs of when it refreshes?
@[email protected] I found out what happened with the main search page - I had updated to a newer version of Meili than Bonfire currently supports, so nothing immediate to fix there. Sorry about that! In fact - for me at least down grading Meili seems to have also fixed the user tag lookup?
Anyway in conclusion computers are pretty great when people remember they're about people and when they're both sometimes difficult thanks for coming to my ted talk.
@[email protected] applause
@[email protected] @[email protected] Please, please. As a couple of years ago I wrote an agentic framework (before the surrounding landscape got rather better defined) I can tell you that you're missing the true depth and complexity here.
It's a loop that runs so slowly and unreliably you need to persist steps to have a hope of it running successfully, and which needs subloops to repeatedly tell it to try again when it attempts to use other software until it gives valid input. Then you rewrite the stack trace so that only the correct trigger is stored in the hope you don't run out of effective memory before actually doing whatever it is you're trying to do. It's so much more than a loop!
@[email protected] @[email protected] Turns out that I could now right some pretty stunning work flow software for managing processes that happen at 'real world' rather than digital speeds, though. Getting computers to run reliably and without bankrupting you at the speed of "Bob from finance answers an email" is actually quite an interesting puzzle.
@sue Oh right, the thing where a guy burned like $1k when his bot spent all night long asking if it's daytime yet.
@[email protected] @[email protected] Please, please. As a couple of years ago I wrote an agentic framework (before the surrounding landscape got rather better defined) I can tell you that you're missing the true depth and complexity here.
It's a loop that runs so slowly and unreliably you need to persist steps to have a hope of it running successfully, and which needs subloops to repeatedly tell it to try again when it attempts to use other software until it gives valid input. Then you rewrite the stack trace so that only the correct trigger is stored in the hope you don't run out of effective memory before actually doing whatever it is you're trying to do. It's so much more than a loop!
Kinda just waiting for Google to announce they're dropping Gmail to force me to do an enormous amount of transfer work on sorry notice when I have very few spoons. I mean they've done enough I'd like to move stuff at this point but a deadline to do so would be the gone of cheese frosting on an already disappointing cake...
@[email protected] In the browser logs I see an "Layout element not found" line, but that seems to be there even on the other feed pages without causing an issue.
In the server logs it is hard to find anything relevant as it is rather drowned in "Possible n+1 query" warnings. I've attached something that might be relevant, but I may need some pointers of how to isolate logs that could be related.
16:36:07.145 request_id=GLHwgQrLOkZ6ToYAAIsh [warning] %FunctionClauseError{
module: Kernel,
function: :get_in,
arity: 2,
kind: nil,
args: nil,
clauses: nil
}
Bonfire.Common.Enums.try_access/2 @ deps/bonfire_common/lib/enums.ex:184
Bonfire.Common.Enums.get_in_access_keys!/3 @ deps/bonfire_common/lib/enums.ex:145
Bonfire.Common.Enums.try_access/2 @ deps/bonfire_common/lib/enums.ex:176
Bonfire.Common.E.get_in_access_keys_or/4 @ deps/bonfire_common/lib/e.ex:491
Bonfire.Common.URIs.query_or_generate_canonical_url/2 @ deps/bonfire_common/lib/uris.ex:510
anonymous fn/2 in Bonfire.UI.Social.ThreadBranchLive."render (overridable 1)"/1 @ deps/bonfire_ui_social/lib/components/thread/thread>
16:36:07.146 request_id=GLHwgQrLOkZ6ToYAAIsh [warning] You should pass a current_user and/or current_account (with settings assoc preload>
Bonfire.Common.Settings.fetch_all_scopes/2 @ deps/bonfire_common/lib/config_settings/settings.ex:306
Bonfire.Common.Settings.get_merged_ext/2 @ deps/bonfire_common/lib/config_settings/settings.ex:271
Bonfire.Common.Settings.do_get_settings/4 @ deps/bonfire_common/lib/config_settings/settings.ex:133
anonymous fn/2 in Bonfire.UI.Social.CommentLive.render_sface/1 @ deps/bonfire_ui_social/lib/components/thread/comment_live.ex:2
Phoenix.LiveView.Diff.invoke_dynamic/2 @ deps/phoenix_live_view/lib/phoenix_live_view/diff.ex:593
Phoenix.LiveView.Diff.traverse/6 @ deps/phoenix_live_view/lib/phoenix_live_view/diff.ex:410
16:36:07.146 request_id=GLHwgQrLOkZ6ToYAAIsh [warning] You should pass a current_user and/or current_account (with settings assoc preload>
Bonfire.Common.Settings.fetch_all_scopes/2 @ deps/bonfire_common/lib/config_settings/settings.ex:306
Bonfire.Common.Settings.get_merged_ext/2 @ deps/bonfire_common/lib/config_settings/settings.ex:271
Bonfire.Common.Settings.do_get_settings/4 @ deps/bonfire_common/lib/config_settings/settings.ex:133
anonymous fn/2 in Bonfire.UI.Social.CommentLive.render_sface/1 @ deps/bonfire_ui_social/lib/components/thread/comment_live.ex:2
Phoenix.LiveView.Diff.invoke_dynamic/2 @ deps/phoenix_live_view/lib/phoenix_live_view/diff.ex:593
Phoenix.LiveView.Diff.traverse/6 @ deps/phoenix_live_view/lib/phoenix_live_view/diff.ex:410
@[email protected] it's out now 😊
@[email protected] Running it already!
Hmm. I seem to be having some issues with search. Do I need to change anything on the config side for 1.0.4? (Trying to tag somebody in the composer is showing me ActivityPub IDs, not tags, and trying to use the search box just starts a UI reload loop)
@andniz yeah, same Confucius, different kids. He pretty quickly became a Stock Character after his death
@[email protected] @[email protected] Confucius often seems to feel like the Worf of philosophers. Every thinker of the episode gets to show how clever and wise they are by outwitting him, until at some point you begin to wonder 'how wise actually is he?'
@[email protected] @[email protected] Yeah, this is the single biggest thing that to me makes it completely clear that there is no connection between current job schenanigans and actual AI capability. Tech companies have been claiming that they're limited by how hard it is to hire skilled staff for years, and then we're told that their response to those staff becoming more productive is to... fire them?
At that point it feels like there's only really three conclusions to choose from: the person saying these things has catestropically bad business sense, they're lying, or both.
Don't mind me, just testing some stuff. #test
@[email protected] And some more stuff #test2
Don't mind me, just testing some stuff. #test
Checked if there was a @[email protected] release for the first time in a few days and noticed there was, and then was puzzled when I couldn't download the container image.
On double checking the time stamps, turns out I had tried to pull the image less than 2 minutes after Mayel pushed the commit.
Me: is building a conditional logic survey platform easy
My tech advisor who built a conditional logic survey platform: I'm going to hold your hand when I say this
@[email protected] looks for the I agree with this post but like/heart is not the appropriate response button
Browsers have fingerprints. They're kind of unavoidable.
Is there anything to stop the browser from spoofing each part that might be fingerprinted with random realistic but false data per request?
@[email protected] I think the problem is how much of the info is actually useful (or even necessary). By the time you've got timezone, language, light/dark theme, and network required stuff you're already fairly uncommon if maybe not unique.
Some bits you could make the argument - like version of browser, which is sort of benefit to share in aggregate but not as an individual. I've known people that have chosen to override user-agent and other info, but unless it becomes the default for a large number of people it just fingerprints you in a different way.
@dr_a That's ... A lot. I hope your heart is okay.
@[email protected] @[email protected] I had a Nepalese friend who was introduced to expressos while being shown how to use the office coffee machine at a new job.
Assuming the small portion had been because the person showing him wasn't sure if he'd like this type of coffee, he rolled in the next morning and kept on hitting the espresso button until his large mug was full. He relates it was a memorable experience, and the finger tremers had mostly stopped after 24 hours.
@mavnn @0xabad1dea
Just wait until you run into one that hashes the entire password, but the login password field only accepts 8 characters.
@[email protected] Ah, the lovely "we'll email you in plain text the only string that will ever work" systems. Right up there with systems that silently turn any 'illegal' character into a '_' without notice. I see those two less often than the silent trancation in real life though.
@mavnn
There is a delightful variation where the truncation is inconsistent, so you can get the password wrong even with a password vault or other copy paste.
@0xabad1dea
@[email protected] Indeed - I found one where the web interface truncated but the mobile did not. Which would imply a certain lack of hashing and salting, but that's probably not the most pressing security concern by that point.
"Please set a new password for your account."
okay
"Your password does not meet your organization policy."
okay, you could have hinted that in the interface before I hit enter, but what's the policy
"It's a secret to everybody."
@[email protected] My all time favourate in this genre are the websites that silently truncate passwords, so it looks like they've been accepted but to actually login you need to only type the first 8 characters...
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