I don't understand what the fuck Agentic AI is and how it's different from normal AI, and at this point I'm kinda afraid to ask ...
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@JessTheUnstill imagine having an executive assistant (that has no morals).
So, you give it access to your calendar so it can accept/reject meetings (if you鈥檙e very lucky, it will do this based on criteria you give it)
And then you need to travel, so you also give it access to your various rewards programs and credit card so it can book your travel and hotel and everything. (If you鈥檙e exceptionally lucky, it doesn鈥檛 use that access to do some personal shopping. Because no morals)
@JessTheUnstill "Normal AI" these days is a chatbot-like thing which will answer questions and write code. It may or may not be able to do web searches to enhance what it 'knows' but it doesn't "do" anything.
"Agentic AI" is when you're so far down the AI psychosis trail that you hook up the chatbot to other software that actually does things. Like command line tools. curl. rm. Whatever you want it to do. Trade stocks. Break up with your partner. Sign contracts.
It's all fine.
Our language around AI is insufficient for our needs.
AIUI Agentic AI = genAI which provides us with AI slop.
Then there is using computers to search for correlations in massive complex databases - this also get called AI. But is AIUI can be very useful. Both to medical researchers and Google in surveillance capitalism.
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@skua At this point, the term AI for anything not genai is irrevocably polluted. Kinda like using crypto to mean anything other than cryptocurrency.
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Yes. Crypto-fascists, crypto-Catholics and crypto-Christians would all obviously now be messing with Bitcoin etc.
Though you've heard that some AI tragics have taken to claiming that all computing should be called AI?
smh
The smell of desperation.
@JessTheUnstill It's the astonishing innovation of *running a thing in a loop and letting it use other software* 馃く馃ぁ
@JessTheUnstill It's the astonishing innovation of *running a thing in a loop and letting it use other software* 馃く馃ぁ
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@sue Oh right, the thing where a guy burned like $1k when his bot spent all night long asking if it's daytime yet.
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@JessTheUnstill Exactly, world changing shit
@JessTheUnstill Exactly, world changing shit
@[email protected] @[email protected] Please, please. As a couple of years ago I wrote an agentic framework (before the surrounding landscape got rather better defined) I can tell you that you're missing the true depth and complexity here.
It's a loop that runs so slowly and unreliably you need to persist steps to have a hope of it running successfully, and which needs subloops to repeatedly tell it to try again when it attempts to use other software until it gives valid input. Then you rewrite the stack trace so that only the correct trigger is stored in the hope you don't run out of effective memory before actually doing whatever it is you're trying to do. It's so much more than a loop!
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@[email protected] @[email protected] Turns out that I could now right some pretty stunning work flow software for managing processes that happen at 'real world' rather than digital speeds, though. Getting computers to run reliably and without bankrupting you at the speed of "Bob from finance answers an email" is actually quite an interesting puzzle.
@JessTheUnstill yeah I don鈥檛 think you want to know.
