@inthehands Yes, that would be much, much more useful to them, preferably one with the right color wife and kids.

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sure they get it, some of them would probably love to be a martyr, they're being groomed you don't die until someone speaks your name for the last time (i've heard this creepy saying repeatedly over the last few years, have you noticed?)

PLUS
1 or 2 lives lost out of millions of Nazis is, to them, a small price to pay for the rest of them to buy the right to slaughter us wholesale because they don't really believe they'll be the 1, it will be their buddy over there...

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They are absolutely cannon fodder and appear so smirkingly clueless. At least the rest of us fully understand this regime wouldn't piss on us if we were on fire, just throw gasoline. Those thugs seem completely oblivious. They are getting to live out their violent fantasies, so maybe they're fine with it?

@inthehands Not only do they need an ICE officer to get killed - eventually most of those that have become ICE officers will be rounded up and imprisoned themselves.

They are the unruly chaos that any fascist wannabe-dictator initially relies on to create the disruption that is used as cause to seize more power. However, at some point those in power become scared of no longer being able to even control them and eventually crack down on the very group they created (usually as a story swung as "we've dealt with the extremist corruption that's grown in this organisation, look moderate population, we are on your side")

@inthehands Those weren't goons if they knew (or cared)

@inthehands It's just like in Andor.

@inthehands One of the scary things is that a bunch of the ICE goons are absolutely True Believers in their mission, and they have already convinced themselves they are going up against the worst of the worst. So they'd probably be horrifyingly okay with giving their life for the cause. They think they'll be remembered as a martyred hero. They think the crackdown following their death will be righteous.

When Trump sends them, they are on a mission from God.

@inthehands They came close with that gun nut getting murdered on stage, but didn't quite get their Horst Wessel moment. That's what they're gunning for.

I wonder what their Reichstag Fire will be?

@inthehands oh, more than a couple.

@inthehands surely the leopards won't eat THEIR face?

@inthehands Very plausible. Especially since that's the same script as Jan6. Then it eventually became clear the idea was to see Pence or Pelosi or, hell, any old Congresscritter or recognizable name killed. That would open the way to declaring martial law (or facsimile thereof using some pet agency?).

@inthehands you do get they don't need "pretext"? They've already gained total control

They are doing everything they can to make it happen: the endless escalations, the recklessness, the shoddy training, the quotas, the sense of impunity, the masks, the bounty hunters, the right-wing camera crews following them like ducklings, the redoubling of provocations after ICE murdered Good: what does it point to except baiting, a total non-concern for the lives of ICE officers, a wish to get at least one of them shot on camera?