I'm not fucking around anymore. If you're actively trying to make shit harder for me, I am going to let you know.
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@grimmy you're releasing alpha versions but you don't want feedback?
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@bagder These are pre-alpha experimental releases to show people we're still alive and in hopes that others might contribute. But not for end-users.
I am burned out to hell but still pushing because I'm stupid or something.
The majority of the feedback is coming from people looking at screen shots and complaining about trivial UI things like "icons being monochromatic".
They're not even attempting to compile the code or use the flathub beta package so generally the feedback isn't great.
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@grimmy I see. But don't you think it is a little double messaging? Releasing packages, even alpha or pre-alpha, is typically a call for early feedback.
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@bagder Is it double messaging when this is explicitly in every single release announcement?
> Just like the previous experimental releases, this is a timed release. It is a snapshot of what we currently have and is something we think other tinkerers and developers may want to start playing with, but again, it is not meant for end users.
https://discourse.imfreedom.org/t/pidgin-3-0-experimental-5-2-94-0-has-been-released/338
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@grimmy but why do releases at all if you don't want the feedback?
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@bagder To have goals which can drive development, for me to get a dopamine hit after being in 10 straight years of development hell, because it gives me a chance to look back and reflect on what we've been doing and determine if that's the correct path.
Are these good enough reasons for you?
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@grimmy for me? Then anything is fine and okay. I'm just trying to understand.
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@bagder Guess I should turn this into an FAQ somewhere which will be yet another thing on my todo list which will of course cut into development time...
Anyways here's the original announcement that described the whole thing.
But tl;dr we're open to feedback if it is actually usable/reasonable right now.
But between live and work finding time for Pidgin is hard and people are making it harder by forcing me through conversations like this.
https://discourse.imfreedom.org/t/pidgin-3-0-0-experimental-1-announcement/216
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@grimmy I don't force you to anything
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@grimmy I mean you're of course entitled to do so, I just think you ask for feedback on the one hand when releasing the packages, then you need to fight the feedback with info no one seems to read. When you could just not do the releases at all ...
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