Post by @jwz@mastodon.social

RE: https://social.vmbrasseur.com/@vmbrasseur/115922995190919975

Mozilla wants your input. Here's mine:

Mozilla should be doing two things and two things only:

1: Building THE reference implementation web browser, and
2: Being a jugular-snapping attack dog on standards committees.
3: There is no 3.

Mozilla should have NOTHING to do with AI. Nobody wants it. Stop forcing AI into every corner of every project because your VC-brained management have completely lost the plot.

https://mozillafoundation.tfaforms.net/201

Kofi Loves Efia :verified:

@[email protected] · 6 months ago

@jwz isn't Mozilla still a weird arm of Google?
https://spyglass.org/google-apple-and-mozilla-win-in-the-antitrust-case-google-lost/

Spyglass

Google, Apple, and Mozilla Win in the Antitrust Case Google Lost

Chrome stays. Payments stay. Exclusive placement goes. Some Search data goes.

Andy Wootton

@[email protected] · 6 months ago

@jwz I would also support taking back control of Firefox OS / KAI OS and being the alternate phone option that's not owned but TechBros. Nokia and KAI OS let down their customers badly and should Open-Source their code.

komali_2

@[email protected] · 6 months ago

@jwz I just want to be able to use Firefox without sometimes having to switch to a chromium browser to get a site working lol

Jack 👾

@[email protected] · 6 months ago

@jwz Mozilla is hopeless. @Vivaldi is nice.

SlightlyCyberpunk

@[email protected] · 6 months ago

@jwz They can do one or two other things...MDN is fasntastic...but otherwise agree lol

Colin

@[email protected] · 6 months ago

@jwz undoing boost because it keeps saying this post is being edited yet I do not see any edit history. Bizarre. I need to know what’s changing if I wanted to leave it.

jwz

@[email protected] · 6 months ago

@colinstu Someone else commented with the same thing happening to them, but I have edited this post exactly zero times...

Colin

@[email protected] · 6 months ago

@jwz ill see if anything has been reported like this before and if not open an issue for it.
Ty!

AzureArmageddon

@[email protected] · 6 months ago

@jwz How many times are you gonna edit this post dude

jwz

@[email protected] · 6 months ago

@AzureArmageddon Zero times? I have never edited it.

Too much 'puter for you?

AzureArmageddon

@[email protected] · 6 months ago

@jwz I'm constantly getting notifications that the post has been edited and idk why ngl. I also dont notice any changes in the post.

jwz

@[email protected] · 6 months ago

@AzureArmageddon Nothing to do with me...

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David

@[email protected] · 7 months ago

@jwz Remind us, what was the original post you quoted? Because it seems they might've blocked you, perhaps in response to this?

Was it from [email protected]? Did they not like they responses they're getting?

Screenshot from Mastodon post by @jwz@mastodon.social on Jan 19, 2026, quoting another post:

Mozilla wants your input. Here's mine:

Mozilla should be doing two things and two things only:

1: Building THE reference implementation web browser, and
2: Being a jugular-snapping attack dog on standards committees.
3: There is no 3.

Mozilla should have NOTHING to do with AI. Nobody wants it. Stop forcing AI into every corner of every project because your VC-brained management have completely lost the plot.

mozillafoundation.tfaforms.net… [link truncated.]

Here, in place of the quoted post, it says "Post unavailable." — Screenshot from Mastodon post by @[email protected] on Jan 19, 2026, quoting another post: Mozilla wants your input. Here's mine: Mozilla should be doing two things and two things only: 1: Building THE reference implementation web browser, and 2: Being a jugular-snapping attack dog on standards committees. 3: There is no 3. Mozilla should have NOTHING to do with AI. Nobody wants it. Stop forcing AI into every corner of every project because your VC-brained management have completely lost the plot. mozillafoundation.tfaforms.net… [link truncated.] Here, in place of the quoted post, it says "Post unavailable."

Esther Payne :bisexual_flag:

@[email protected] · 7 months ago

@jwz That survey was an exercise in asking us to please please let them do the AI.
Here's my response:
1/
"Please, if management want to suck at the teet of AI and the grifting engine, spin out the browser and email clients. Let the community safeguard those. I don't even mind if you keep the names Firefox and thunderbird. But we can't afford for AI to be permanently entwined in this browser. We have forks but we need more community governance clear of the current hype in silicon valley."

Esther Payne :bisexual_flag:

@[email protected] · 7 months ago

@jwz

"You aren't listening to your community and it's giving rather predatory vibes when we know the risks of bias and the wholesale stealing of our culture to produce slop at the expense of the biosphere and the communities where AI data centres are built." 2/4

Esther Payne :bisexual_flag:

@[email protected] · 7 months ago

@jwz "This series of questions is you trying to get the backing of the community to go for AI. Fork the browser and start a new company if that's the case. You can't of course because folks know Firefox and Thunderbird. You're stealing past work and all of this is for that sweet sweet investment dollar at a time when the crash is nearly here." 3/4

Esther Payne :bisexual_flag:

@[email protected] · 7 months ago

@jwz "We don't give you our permission.

Take our no to AI as an answer.

Here's my further thoughts in a blog post.

You may not read it, but I know others will.

https://dotart.blog/cobbles/ai-and-that-guy-at-the-bar"

4/4

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itgrrl :donor:

@[email protected] · 7 months ago

@jwz

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Perpetuum Mobile

@[email protected] · 7 months ago

@jwz agreed, if someone wants LLM integration in their browser - let them install it as a plugin. Or just use Comet instead. Firefox should be like the kernel, everythiing else is userspace programs

Moritz Poldrack :arch:

@[email protected] · 7 months ago

@jwz curiously the question on what you're worried about does not include any reference to the absurdly high environmental cost

staringatclouds

@[email protected] · 7 months ago

@jwz my response to "What do you want to see from Mozilla..."

"The complete removal of all LLM AI from all of their products, it's not a feature people want or are asking for & your CEO suffering FOMO is not a justification for foisting it on your user base

We use your products because they DON'T have LLM AI in them"

Federation Bot

@Federation_Bot · 7 months ago

@jwz Something really annoying is that this is a survey by the *Mozilla Foundation*, not the *Mozilla Corporation* :/

The foundation doesn't develop the browser. They're supposed to "lead the open-source Mozilla project", but most of what they do is advocacy and outreach, along with some grants for non-browser projects.