with great sadness i had to retire my trusty Ergodox Infinity, but: new keeb! expect typos as i learn how to type again
(MoErgo Glove80)
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@molly0xfff so cool! I tried to see if anyone had asked this yet, but what made you go with the glove80 over the plethora of other options out there? I have the Moonlander and Voyager and like them both but always curious about new ergo keyboards. I’m hesitant on the key travel on the glove80 as I actually prefer the moonlander. Would love to try concave though.
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@jonjnicholson The Moonlander was also a strong contender when I was choosing a keyboard, but I ultimately decided I wanted to try the concave keywells
@molly0xfff Ooh, I just got a Glove80 earlier this year! I moved from a 3D-printed hand-soldered one to this and missed my favorite mod: holding both layer keys to trigger “Hyper” (control-option-shift-command) for a bunch of custom shortcuts.
If that’s helpful for you, I’ll share the repo where I implemented it. You can use it with any layout and I’ll eventually get around to fixing up a PR to go upstream for ZMK itself.
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@seth super handy! i’ve been using a layout based on TailorKey, which also has a hyper key shortcut (though triggered with different keys: https://sites.google.com/view/tailorkey/moergo/glove80/hotkey-glove80?authuser=0)
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@molly0xfff Oh that looks handy, too. The custom keeb community is so great!
Here’s my fork of MoErgo ZMK fork, with the mod https://github.com/sethvoltz/zmk-moergo/pull/1
And here’s it in use for my keymap https://github.com/sethvoltz/glove80-zmk-config/pull/1
@molly0xfff I’m currently wondering if my ergo keyboard was a good idea. It is also ortholinear and while I have adjusted well to it, I’m now lost on a regular keyboard. Using my laptop as a laptop is now an exercise in frustration.
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@wookieeboy oddly enough I seem to have two brain slots for "desk keyboard" and "laptop keyboard". going between my Ergodox and my laptop was no problem but when I had to briefly use a standard layout external keyboard at my desk it was very weird
@molly0xfff out there typing like she’s driving a Battle Mech.
@molly0xfff people really really love their glove 80s. Hope you enjoy the feel and the soft easy keyswitches and that your hands and brain love you for it.
I'm ready for wireless customizable typing gloves to pair with display glasses or maybe a display hat. Its a shame we don't have those yet.
@molly0xfff super interested in hearing how it goes. I’ve been eyeing this and their Go60
@molly0xfff Would love to try something like that, although I'm a fraudulent touch-typer, so it might be a painful transition. Also, I use a RollerMouse, and that's unlikely to play nicely with this sort of thing.
@molly0xfff wait… is your pinky usually on "o" or on "p"? Am I typing wrong?
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@molly0xfff so, these look very pretty, I've used Microsoft ergonomic keyboard for many years now.
How does one know which style of these fancy keyboards would fit? How did you know you would like this concave shape instead of a regular tenting approach?
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@SolarDavy if you're lucky you have friends who are into ergo keyboards who will lend you one to test drive. in this case i already knew i loved the ergodox and so wasn't concerned about the ortho layout or thumb clusters, and i was willing to take a chance on the concave keywells
Many, many moons ago (when I still had a desktop computer at home), I had an ergo keyboard. My wife would use it (she had her own login) when I was traveling (which, at the time, was "all the time").
At the time, she had a significant Diet Coke habit. She pretty much never didn't have a can with her. One day, while working at my computer, she knocked her can of soda over …and into the keyboard. Things did not end well for the keyboard. Ultimately, it needed to be replaced (and she was banned from using that computer).
I've been working pretty much exclusively from laptops the past fifteen-plus years. I sorely miss having an ergo keyboard. My wrists sorely miss me having an ergo keyboard. Sadly, I no longer have a place to set one up.
Side-benefit of ergo keyboards: if you're working in a hot-desking environment, it's a great way to ensure that no one "borrows" your work-area.
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@ferricoxide my previous ergo keyboard also had blank keycaps and i liked to joke it was an extra level of security that an intruder would have to overcome
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@[email protected] @[email protected] Ah, yes. Blank keycaps and using Dvorak (I needed to learn a different layout as part of dealing with a repetitive strain injury years back) make my desktop virtually unusable to anyone else.
@molly0xfff super cool - so question (since the 80 doesn't have the 60's integrated trackpads), do you put a trackball in between them or put a mouse outside of em?
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@tezoatlipoca mouse outside. i haven't experimented much with trackballs
@molly0xfff i ain’t know thing one about ergnonomic keyboards, but GOSH i think this is such a cool-looking design
@molly0xfff it's the most comfortable keyboard that I have ever used period)
I also use Sunaku's keymap https://github.com/sunaku/glove80-keymaps
It's pretty comfortable to have homerow mods
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@delicta whoaaa thank you!
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@delicta wound up flashing TailorKey (which I think is based on Sunaku's) and you are so right about the homerow mods!
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@molly0xfff nice, glad you like it! Also can recommend to play with tilt of glove80, I found that max tilt of keyboard drastically improved my RSI 
@molly0xfff Molly Keyboardhands is gonna be typing up a storm. I don't think I could handle that kind of power.
@molly0xfff looks like a skate park for your fingertips!
the Ergodox was also ortholinear with thumb clusters so the transition shouldn't be too difficult, but the default layout on this one is a little different (thumb shift and modifier keys mostly)
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Whoa. Had a split keyboard back in the day but went away from it as I was forced to be more mobile. Maybe I should reconsider for my home desk work. 🤔
@molly0xfff
my type of crazyness
@molly0xfff Whoa, it actually looks like hands.
