@glyph the part about “well she can’t be European, because her website doesn’t have an impressum” really stood out to me, bro you just confused Germany for Europe
@glyph the part about “well she can’t be European, because her website doesn’t have an impressum” really stood out to me, bro you just confused Germany for Europe
I understand that it must feel unfair to residents of every other country in the world that our decrepit autocrat's psychodrama has to be _your_ problem every single day, and it must feel like the world revolves around us. But:
1. Most of us, especially those of us you'll run into online, already agree with you about that.
2. People live where they live and have their experiences that they have. If you have *knowledge* on a particular topic from a non-US perspective, that can be welcome.
But—and this is important—3. There is absolutely never any reason to say "I dunno, sounds like that's only interesting to people in the US, don't talk about that." That is a useless, derailing, infuriating, and often *completely incorrect* reply. There are plenty of other people outside the US who engage with our work regularly and are able to comment on it just fine without retreating into this weird reverse-jingoism.
@glyph while the aforementioned reply was absolute ass and got a well deserved kickback with added momentum, I don't think the point was "don't talk about that", rather "I'd like it to be more clear if this is something that concerns me".
The answer was yes, and not inferring it was an unambiguous display in misogyny, but the problem of non-geographically anchored discourse on the internet is a real issue.
Latam variant : try to guess if an ecommerce website ships to your country.
@ddelemeny yeah there are several layers to the shittiness in this case and it's maybe a little tough to peel them apart, but there's a huge difference between "this sounds really interesting and I'm curious to know if it affects people in my country" and "it's rude not to declare where you live before posting, why aren't you following Germany's weird self-doxxing law, this probably only applies to the US anyway"
@glyph trace amounts of "US has shitty healthcare system, we europe better" type of contempt were detected in that specific answer, yeah. Layers of shittiness indeed.
@ddelemeny like this is a great example where Cat didn't say what country it affected and the reply guy assumed that meant it only affected the US, but she was speaking in a geographically ambiguous way intentionally because this is a nearly-universal, global problem
@glyph there are def ways americans can post annoyingly online.
but at some point it really seems like "hey if you're annoyed Americans are posting about America*, maybe stop following Americans?"
* I know this thread is about more general posting. but I have seen a lot of snippy vagueposting in the past that seems like it could be solved by just unfollowing people that are that annoying to the poster!
@glyph s/Americans/estadounidenses/g or something, probably. I am trying to excise that particular phrase from my vocab.
(not that it meaningfully changes my point).
@lunemercove If someone has a specific way in which a thing I posted is insensitive to folks outside the US, in a way I may not have understood, I am always happy to hear about it and try to correct that in the future. But there is a particular Type Of Guy—almost always a white, european, middle-aged man from one of a handful of countries (Germany, France, Switzerland, Belgium, Austria) who thinks "Hey, it sounds like you're from the US, and I don't like that!" is an insightful contribution
@glyph the part about “well she can’t be European, because her website doesn’t have an impressum” really stood out to me, bro you just confused Germany for Europe
@glyph there is probably a separate point here about how a lot of europeans think their shit doesn't stink just because they aren't at the tip of Rising Fascism.