IT'S HAPPENING
GITHUB, THE FIRST ENTERPRISE CLOUD SOLUTION TO REACH ZERO NINES RELIABILITY
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IT'S HAPPENING
GITHUB, THE FIRST ENTERPRISE CLOUD SOLUTION TO REACH ZERO NINES RELIABILITY
@0xabad1dea I wonder at what point they will declare Uptime Bankruptcy and start fresh?
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"What are you talking about I see two nines right there." John Microsoft probably
@0xabad1dea microsoft can't devops.
@0xabad1dea I mean technically, they still have 2 nines there... 🤔 😅
@0xabad1dea its probably running on #windows now go https://codeberg.org
@0xabad1dea Microsoft would argue that 89.91% actually has 2 9s
@0xabad1dea Looking at it positively, they do have 4 eights of reliability.
@0xabad1dea sloptastic news!
@0xabad1dea i mean it does have nines in it, so it’s the slop version of two nines
@0xabad1dea i really don't understand how and real companies still use microsoft products. and i try really hard. i build software infrastructure and do tool selection for developer teams for a living. my previous company used microsoft dynamic 365 as their CRM. they paid about 4 million per year euros for it (significant expense given the company size) and they threw away their own solution in favor of that. yet, the thing was down and unusable (as in whole departments of the company cannot do their work at all and we were bleeding hundreds of thousands in real money every few hours) at least once every two months! longest outages lasted 2 or 3 days. and that's not even counting all the consultancy expenses to manage and customize that thing because there was no internal know-how to do that. the company before that switched from one cloud to another for no apparent practical reason with disastrous consequences for development of the product... these kinds of management decisions are entirely irrational and the only way i can explain them is that companies like microsoft and google invest more in kickbacks to decision makers than into development of their products.
@0xabad1dea I love that I am reading this while waiting for GitHub to fix their API throwing HTTP 503 errors :)
@0xabad1dea Also, I note, an issue that never made it to their status page!
@mini yeah, the official status page is *comically* conservative because of misaligned incentives.
@0xabad1dea I'm sure CoPilot would agree that 9.9999% is much easier to accomplish than 99.999%, an it would still be 5 9s
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To make matters (much) worse, copilot seems to be very reliable ...
@0xabad1dea how is it zero nines - there are two nines in 89.91 🤣
@0xabad1dea sure, if you're going to be a stick in the mud and only count nines at the start of the number.
If you get rid of that restriction, they've still got two nines.
@0xabad1dea That's like when GE merged with Bell Atlantic, and we got the worst quality of service paired with the lowest reliability provider. Just getting dial tone was a crap shoot...
@0xabad1dea Thank goodness GitHub is just a popular code repository, and not something anyone would treat as an essential piece of infrastructure in their software provisioning, integration, distribution or whatever process.
@0xabad1dea there are 2 nines in there, I don't see the issue :P
@0xabad1dea waiting for 0.99999% reliability, see there are five of them and this is where it counts
@0xabad1dea copilot is flying it straight in to a cliff face...
@0xabad1dea There's still two 9s in there. Depending on what or who that is counting, that is probably just fine.
@0xabad1dea Maybe github management counts that as "two nines"'?
@0xabad1dea my self-hosted gitea has a higher uptime lmao
@0xabad1dea they can't gain three-9s through 99.9% so they are now course-correcting to three-9s through 89.99%
I am going to once again clarify that a) this is an independent third party tracker b) it tracks ten subsystems and overlays all incidents on one timeline to arrive at the sub-90% overall reliability; it does not mean that the github site is just completely dead 10% of the time.
I am in a hell entirely of my own making; a hell where I get the reply “but there are still two nines in that number,” forever
@0xabad1dea we all know there are two nines in strawberry
@0xabad1dea "Local dog owner DOSes Github to defuse social media joke, news at 11"
@0xabad1dea I mean, it also doesn’t _not_ say that 😛
@0xabad1dea aw hell yeah zero nines
@0xabad1dea This is why I'm migrating to hub hub.
@0xabad1dea Cadeberg can't manage that, even with all the DDoSes!
@0xabad1dea They say schadenfreude is an ugly emotion, but I just cannot help myself. I experience joy when Microsoft fails. It gives me hope that maybe, just maybe this world can correct some of our mistakes.
@nuintari @0xabad1dea this is the Gaia hypothesis in action. Eventually the world turns on us and destroys our meaningless works and renders our triumphs as meaningless dust :)