IT'S HAPPENING
GITHUB, THE FIRST ENTERPRISE CLOUD SOLUTION TO REACH ZERO NINES RELIABILITY
IT'S HAPPENING
GITHUB, THE FIRST ENTERPRISE CLOUD SOLUTION TO REACH ZERO NINES RELIABILITY
@0xabad1dea they misunderstood and their SLA says nine 5’s instead
@0xabad1dea ...and nobody's actually leaving though, to speak of. The network effects are too strong. I prefer #codeberg myself, BTW
#github #OpenSource
How very dare you! 89.43% still contains a 9.
@0xabad1dea We have reached the singularity
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Incident/day > 1; ^_^
I never had use for it myself, but I am gobsmacked how many people and projects continued to use Github after Microsoft bought it. Everything piece of bullshit that has happened since was foreseeable and foreseen.
@0xabad1dea Soon the reason I don't use Github will be "I can't access it" rather than "I don't use centralised services or Git".
@0xabad1dea people in the comments channeling their inner Gul Madred "there are two nines."
Has Github tried turning it off and then on again? 5 times? Its probably all windows and azure based now since the takeover, so they need to boot the hell out of it all i bet.
The whole back end is also probably vibe coded by copilot. I strongly advise people migrate their projects to greener pastures that don't feed the MS attack chain.
if you live in the ~~codeburger~~ codeberg land nothing ever happens (and it's good)
@0xabad1dea fake, I can see 2 nines right there. :P
@0xabad1dea Nobody ever got fired by being bought by Microsoft...wait!
@0xabad1dea Like Copilot, github is Only For Entertainment.
@0xabad1dea this is beautiful! Thanks for sharing and giving us hope!
@0xabad1dea soon we try to keep track of percentage down time instead of uptime 🤣
@0xabad1dea WDYM, 89,9 has TWO nines!
@0xabad1dea 4 eights, here we goooooooo!
@0xabad1dea they're working toward 5 nines - 9.9999% uptime
@0xabad1dea The other day I got a 500 error just by creating a new issue with 5 text lines, that's how bad things have gotten. (Never happened before)
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Githib is shooting for "nine fives of reliability"
@0xabad1dea THERE ARE ZERO NINES
starting to think Microsoft has a humiliation kink
@0xabad1dea numbers are not my forte. I'll admit I'm an idiot. what in the name of crimes against statistics is going on here?
- major web service providers generally sign agreements with their largest customers to provide "five nines" of uptime: 99.999%.
- Github, one of the most important pieces of infrastructure for computer programming in general, has been getting increasingly unstable over the last several months.
- Github's own official downtime tracker is extremely, uh, conservative, because the more they officially acknowledge as downtime, the more trouble they're in with major customers. But even by their rosiest estimates, they've lost several nines
- This third party tracker concludes that Github has dropped below 90%, that is to say, to zero nines, for the last 90 days. Note that this is counting any big observable problem as downtime, even if the entire site isn't completely dead.
@0xabad1dea @Netraven and as someone who has been one of those 'very large' customers, I can tell you for fact that every cloud provider will use every single excuse in the book and every method they possibly can to straight up lie about their uptime.
The number one cheat? "Oh, that wasn't an official incident. So not covered." Number two, "you didn't file a ticket when it happened."
@0xabad1dea oh thank you very much, that makes sense.
What do you mean? I see two nines right there in the middle.
@0xabad1dea "We did it, boys!"
@0xabad1dea @zazzoo those LLMs sure are helping!
@0xabad1dea Five nines (0.99999%)
@0xabad1dea Paraphrasing Queeg, "it's got a nine in it".
I've worked for enough companies that I've seen teams who couldn't even manage nine fives.
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@mogi ok maybe codeberg is doing alright lol
@0xabad1dea I wonder at what point they will declare Uptime Bankruptcy and start fresh?
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"What are you talking about I see two nines right there." John Microsoft probably
@0xabad1dea microsoft can't devops.
@0xabad1dea I mean technically, they still have 2 nines there... 🤔 😅
@0xabad1dea its probably running on #windows now go https://codeberg.org
@0xabad1dea Microsoft would argue that 89.91% actually has 2 9s
@0xabad1dea Looking at it positively, they do have 4 eights of reliability.
@0xabad1dea sloptastic news!
@0xabad1dea i mean it does have nines in it, so it’s the slop version of two nines
@0xabad1dea i really don't understand how and real companies still use microsoft products. and i try really hard. i build software infrastructure and do tool selection for developer teams for a living. my previous company used microsoft dynamic 365 as their CRM. they paid about 4 million per year euros for it (significant expense given the company size) and they threw away their own solution in favor of that. yet, the thing was down and unusable (as in whole departments of the company cannot do their work at all and we were bleeding hundreds of thousands in real money every few hours) at least once every two months! longest outages lasted 2 or 3 days. and that's not even counting all the consultancy expenses to manage and customize that thing because there was no internal know-how to do that. the company before that switched from one cloud to another for no apparent practical reason with disastrous consequences for development of the product... these kinds of management decisions are entirely irrational and the only way i can explain them is that companies like microsoft and google invest more in kickbacks to decision makers than into development of their products.
@0xabad1dea I love that I am reading this while waiting for GitHub to fix their API throwing HTTP 503 errors :)
@0xabad1dea Also, I note, an issue that never made it to their status page!
@mini yeah, the official status page is *comically* conservative because of misaligned incentives.
@0xabad1dea I'm sure CoPilot would agree that 9.9999% is much easier to accomplish than 99.999%, an it would still be 5 9s
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To make matters (much) worse, copilot seems to be very reliable ...
@0xabad1dea how is it zero nines - there are two nines in 89.91 🤣
@0xabad1dea sure, if you're going to be a stick in the mud and only count nines at the start of the number.
If you get rid of that restriction, they've still got two nines.
@0xabad1dea That's like when GE merged with Bell Atlantic, and we got the worst quality of service paired with the lowest reliability provider. Just getting dial tone was a crap shoot...
@0xabad1dea Thank goodness GitHub is just a popular code repository, and not something anyone would treat as an essential piece of infrastructure in their software provisioning, integration, distribution or whatever process.
@0xabad1dea there are 2 nines in there, I don't see the issue :P
@0xabad1dea waiting for 0.99999% reliability, see there are five of them and this is where it counts
@0xabad1dea copilot is flying it straight in to a cliff face...
@0xabad1dea There's still two 9s in there. Depending on what or who that is counting, that is probably just fine.
@0xabad1dea Maybe github management counts that as "two nines"'?
@0xabad1dea my self-hosted gitea has a higher uptime lmao
@0xabad1dea they can't gain three-9s through 99.9% so they are now course-correcting to three-9s through 89.99%
I am going to once again clarify that a) this is an independent third party tracker b) it tracks ten subsystems and overlays all incidents on one timeline to arrive at the sub-90% overall reliability; it does not mean that the github site is just completely dead 10% of the time.
@0xabad1dea It's still a good overview of the end user experience.
When I try to merge a PR, I need several other services to work correctly, so when one is down, I still can't do anything properly. A bit like if my keyborad is broken, a working screen isn't very useful.
I am in a hell entirely of my own making; a hell where I get the reply “but there are still two nines in that number,” forever
@0xabad1dea you forgot leading 😅
@0xabad1dea Nine fives of uptime!
@0xabad1dea presumably alongside a lot of "but there are still four nines in total in the picture"
I'll assume the half of these that I can't actually read because they use the "only visible to people logged in to bluesky" toggle are all, to the last, the same "two nines" reply 😂
GIRL I GOT MORE NINES THAN GITHUB 
@0xabad1dea In Trumps voice: "I have the most nines. The best nines. The greatest nines the world has ever seen."
@0xabad1dea little endian don’t count.
@0xabad1dea that reply number tho. nice.
@0xabad1dea Congrats / condolences
@0xabad1dea only 99.999% of them
@0xabad1dea we all know there are two nines in strawberry
@0xabad1dea "Local dog owner DOSes Github to defuse social media joke, news at 11"
@0xabad1dea I mean, it also doesn’t _not_ say that 😛
@0xabad1dea aw hell yeah zero nines
@0xabad1dea This is why I'm migrating to hub hub.
@0xabad1dea Cadeberg can't manage that, even with all the DDoSes!
@0xabad1dea They say schadenfreude is an ugly emotion, but I just cannot help myself. I experience joy when Microsoft fails. It gives me hope that maybe, just maybe this world can correct some of our mistakes.
@nuintari @0xabad1dea this is the Gaia hypothesis in action. Eventually the world turns on us and destroys our meaningless works and renders our triumphs as meaningless dust :)
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